Harry Netzer
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Post by Harry Netzer on May 30, 2017 20:42:03 GMT -5
Hello All! The last couple of years has been a let down with the high water, but hopefully this year the New river will be at a good level. We have just under a month until the Science Camper Weekend. This year it will be June 24 and 25. We will be on the same section of the New River as always(Glade Creek to Grandview). We will be able to camp at the ACE Gear Shoppe on Fayette station road again this year. We will have the campground from Friday June 23 until the late afternoon of the 25th. We will need experienced guides to show the campers a few basic paddling techniques and guide them through the rapids. I am looking for paddlers that know the Upper New and are comfortable kayaking it. We also need lots of gear. The clubs goal is to accommodate for 30 campers each day, so that means we will need at least 30 kayaks and all the other gear. Please contact me if you want to volunteer on the water, on land, or donate equipment for the weekend. Click www.wvwa.net/cgi-bin/campernew.pl?form to sign up.
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Post by Tony Daniel on May 31, 2017 6:24:07 GMT -5
I'll be glad to help out Harry, I've got one extra kayak, and two duckies and gear/pfds to go with them. So I can cover three campers on boats and gear if you are willing to go with duckies.
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Post by Bob Anderson on May 31, 2017 11:18:33 GMT -5
We will be on a river out West during the Science Camper weekend. I can loan boats and other gear.
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Post by David Bell on May 31, 2017 13:10:02 GMT -5
Ruth and I will be there with two extra boats and gear. Can bring two IKs also if needed.
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Post by Harry Netzer on May 31, 2017 18:49:55 GMT -5
Thanks for Volunteering Tony, Ruth and David. Bob, let me know how you want me to pick up boats between now and then. I promise I will not keep them as long as I kept your Speeder.
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Post by Wes Barthwick on Jun 4, 2017 23:08:15 GMT -5
Harry-
We will be out west too that weekend. I do have a full set of gear and extras. Will you have space to take it home from the meeting this Thursday?
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Post by Kathy Williams on Jun 13, 2017 19:52:29 GMT -5
Harry, How many volunteers for Saturday? How many campers expected Saturday? How many volunteers for Sunday? How many campers expected Sunday?
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Harry Netzer
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Post by Harry Netzer on Jun 14, 2017 8:45:39 GMT -5
I plan on 30 campers per day, and I would like to have 30 on river volunteers each day. The number of volunteers is pretty low right now.
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Post by Woody Davis on Jun 14, 2017 10:37:37 GMT -5
I should be good for helping on river 24 & 25 Harry.. I am overdue for helping the club
If something changes I will let you know
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Post by Dustin Johnson on Jun 14, 2017 21:24:22 GMT -5
I should be able to help out both days. Have extra gear depending on what is needed. My wife can help with any land based activities (shuttles, forms, etc) on Sunday.
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Post by Doug (Freeze) Ackerman on Jun 15, 2017 11:53:03 GMT -5
I can help both days. I have two sets of kayak gear, but my big kayaks never get used, so I'll probably just bring the rest of the stuff unless we get desperate. - Have you arranged transport for all these boats and gear? I could bring my 4' x 8' trailer. - If you want to stow stuff somewhere between now and the trip, I have some room. Then you don't have to bring it all from Charleston on the day of the trip. - Anyone that wants to spend Friday night closer to the river is welcome to stay at my place. I could bore you with pictures of the Galapagos and Peru.
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Post by Doug (Freeze) Ackerman on Jun 15, 2017 11:55:12 GMT -5
Is it legit to hustle up experienced paddlers for this trip that are not WVWA members?
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Post by Harry Netzer on Jun 15, 2017 13:02:40 GMT -5
In a perfect world, we would easily have 30+ club members on the trip. It is very legit to hustle experienced paddlers that want to help out, even if they're not members.
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Post by Andrew Gillespie on Jun 15, 2017 17:16:16 GMT -5
Harry What all did you need from me are you still assessing boats and gear ? Give me a call 304-710-6463
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Post by The Stehman Family on Jun 15, 2017 19:28:35 GMT -5
We're planning to help on and off the water. I'll talk with ya sat. on the GC to grand view trip
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Post by Tom Connelly on Jun 17, 2017 16:43:10 GMT -5
Unfortunately we won't be able to be there but have dropped off three full outfits (boats, skirts, paddles, pfds, helmets) with David and Ruth.
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Post by Cliff Beck on Jun 18, 2017 13:40:41 GMT -5
Harry, as I mentioned yesterday, I am in. I can provide single duck, paddle, vest, helmet.
I will commute from home. I will be at sandbar between 9 and 9:30.
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Post by Dan Waller on Jun 18, 2017 14:35:52 GMT -5
As we discussed before I'll have my trailer and it'll be completely empty. Friday night we can consolidate boats and gear in it. This will save us parking space up at the top. Then once we get the kids outfitted the extra boats and gear can get locked up in the trailer.
Bring 4 boats, 1 of them a sit-on-top. With all the gear. If you want to bring me boats like last year, I can store them in my garage and haul them down. Harry, I took the rest of this week off so call me if you need anything. I am at your disposal.
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Post by David Bell on Jun 18, 2017 15:15:53 GMT -5
I'll have my truck which can haul 5 (or more if very friendly ) and at least 8 boats.
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Post by Rob Parker on Jun 18, 2017 17:06:42 GMT -5
Brian and I are in for both days. We have extra PFDs (4-5), paddles (4), and helmets (3). Only one extra skirt. Can bring spare boats if needed.
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Post by Harry Netzer on Jun 18, 2017 18:19:23 GMT -5
Thanks Cliff and Rob for signing up. Dan, I will call you to and maybe I can run over to your place after work Tuesday to load up your trailer.
I don't have a total list of all the gear people have offered, but will tally it monday and see if we still need anything.
RIght now we have the following signed up to help.
Scot Meadows, Raft Support
Kayakers: Harry Netzer David King David Bell Ruth Bell Wes Barthwick Doug Ackerman Pat McCarty Michelle Isble Dustin Johnson Stehmans Dan Waller John and Betty Callender Cliff Beck Rob and Brian Parker Andrew Gillespie Ken Jordan Tony Daniels John and Kristin Tippett Woody Davis
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Post by Scot Meadows on Jun 20, 2017 8:54:22 GMT -5
Hey Harry
Do you have a timeline yet? I could probably make do from previous experience but specifically for morning meet / shuttle times Sat / Sunday.
sgm
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Post by Alex Padon on Jun 20, 2017 10:44:50 GMT -5
Hey Harry, I can help out on Sunday. I can do raft support and bring an extra kayak for someone to use, full setup (m/l pfd, m/l helmet, Jackson hero, medium skirt, paddle). Give me a call. 304-545-8301
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Post by Harry Netzer on Jun 20, 2017 20:15:32 GMT -5
If you are bringing kayaking gear, I'd like all gear brought to the Glade Creek Put-in by 1000. We can get everything sorted into pods and have everything ready for the science campers. If you are bringing yourself, be at the put-in by 11am. Let's try to consolidate as many boats into as few vehicles as we can, parking can be tight on a normal weekend on both ends of the river.
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Post by Dustin Johnson on Jun 21, 2017 11:00:40 GMT -5
Don't forget to have your gear labeled with your name.
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Post by Ken Koth on Jun 21, 2017 20:11:20 GMT -5
I am planning on being there Sat & Sun. I'll have one extra boat with gear.
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Post by Doug (Freeze) Ackerman on Jun 21, 2017 22:11:07 GMT -5
This evening we were discussing potential river levels for the Science Campers' trip. Check out the link. They are forecasting some pretty high water. 10,000 on Saturday. >15,000 on Sunday. This is just a forecast and actual flows may be different (on Monday, they predicted 12,000 on Tuesday and you can see it was actually around 7,000). - water.weather.gov/ahps2/hydrograph.php?wfo=rnk&gage=hinw2- The Science Campers should work on weather control. Or maybe they have. For the last few years, they seem to be rain magnets.
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Post by Doug (Freeze) Ackerman on Jun 21, 2017 22:16:18 GMT -5
The table from the website is a bit hard to read for cfs. Here are the specific data points in the table at this moment (they will surely evolve with time).
06/24 02:00 2.70ft 5.78kcfs 06/24 08:00 3.00ft 7.43kcfs 06/24 14:00 3.50ft 10.6kcfs 06/24 20:00 4.00ft 13.9kcfs 06/25 02:00 4.40ft 17kcfs 06/25 08:00 4.60ft 18.6kcfs 06/25 14:00 4.60ft 18.6kcfs 06/25 20:00 4.40ft 17kcfs
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Post by Dustin Johnson on Jun 22, 2017 6:27:30 GMT -5
The latest model I saw shows it hitting us early Saturday morning around 2:30am, with the first front moving in late Thursday night. Most models are showing us in the 2-2.5 inch range, with north and west of us getting up to 4 inches.
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Post by Harry Netzer on Jun 22, 2017 8:58:07 GMT -5
How accurate are those predictions, and does it tend to predict a higher level to be conservative?
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